Catalans on the march in Barcelona
Some 200,000 to 300,000 Catalans took to the streets today to protest the trials (the “fake justice”, as above) that are now beginning for 12 key Catalan leaders charged with carrying out the October 1, 2017 Independence Referendum and the subsequent declaration of Catalan independence–which brought on a political intervention from the national government in Madrid.
You can read more about today’s protest in this BBC article.
Some of my personal observations and opinions…
–These Catalan leaders–some in exile, some held in jail–were carrying out the will of the Catalan populace who voted them into power. Can you really jail politicians for peacefully carrying out the will of the people? The people who voted for them are just as culpable then, no? Logically, shouldn’t the people also be arrested, charged, and tried?
–Catalan independence seems like a very, very, very long shot at this point. Then, if the Catalans were to succeed, what about Basque Country? Galicia? Or any one of the many separatist movements currently active throughout Europe?
–The European Union craves stability above all, so the Catalan “situation” is seen by the EU as an internal matter, so there is not much EU support at this point, even if they aren’t entirely in support of Madrid’s methods. Without the solid backing of the EU, it would be difficult to garner the required international support for a new Catalan state.
–The Catalan separatist movement has been quite peaceful and, I would add, even family-oriented despite some propaganda to the contrary (see my photos below). The only violence to speak of would be the rare isolated incident here and there…or, more obviously, and as you might have seen on television, the rather brutal crackdown by the national police in an attempt to interfere with the October 2017 referendum.
–I can’t see the Catalans getting their independence any time soon–probably not in my lifetime. But it seems that many Catalans are in it for the long haul, so who knows what might happen with the next generation…
–I feel like the Madrid central government has been dealing with the Catalans in a very heavy-handed, even vengeful, way–there is even a whiff of mothballs, monarchy, and the old conquering Spanish Empire in their rhetoric at times. The Catalans themselves are somewhat divided about the idea of independence so, rather than being jerks about it, Madrid could easily take the wind out of the sails of the movement with some well-designed concessions to Catalunya.
–My impression is that the Catalan rural areas and small towns throughout the province are heavily in support of independence. (You’ll see signs as you enter many smaller burgs that say, “You are entering a Catalan town” or something similar.) Barcelona, however, is quite cosmopolitan with immigrants from all over Spain and the world, consequently, the idea of independence here in the capital is not nearly as overwhelming. In Barcelona, I’d guess the political division on the question is roughly this: 33.33% want it, 33.33% don’t, and the other 33.33% don’t really care and/or don’t pay attention to the issue–much like popular opinion during our own American Revolution.
My solution:
1. Have Madrid authorize a Scottish-style referendum in Catalunya that would be legal, binding, and final–BUT, with the threshold for independence at 60%, not just a simple 50%-plus-the-one-lone-paisano (or pagès, more accurately). This would ensure that there is indeed strong support for the separation from Spain.
2. Leading up to the referendum, have the path previously prepped and paved for Catalunya’s quick entry into the EU if such a vote were to be successful.
Some photographs from the day’s march:
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I notice that the crowd in your photographs seem to be middle age to an older crowd. It may be just coincidence but is this movement of particular advantage to more mature Catalans? Families? Perhaps this is why there is little violence in the protests.
We are facing a civil dispute here any day now. This country’s voters are clearly divided when it comes to Trump. How the right can hold the party line in the face of mounting evidence of criminal and treasonous behavior is beyond me. My neighbors, staunch Trump supporters, have now shifted, after months of silence, to say that Democrats AND Republicans are at fault for the problems, and they will be voting Independent in the future. I wonder what it will take to get them to admit that Trump is guilty of criminal behavior?
I live in a vitriolic Red State. These people actually stand in line for hours to attend Trump rallies. Democrats lost 2 to 1 in most state, local, and national elections in Tennessee despite working their tails off during the campaigns. They are still working towards the 2020 election but I cannot imagine what will turn the tide around here. Talk about a long game. These right-wing, so-called, conservatives are still fighting against the separation of church and state, for white supremacy, against women’s reproductive rights, against medical marijuana, etc., etc. Oh, and they really want that Wall. We have three large cities: Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville. They usually vote heavily towards the Democratic party but still cannot carry the state.
Here’s my suggestion for a solution: Keep Seniors in High School until they can read at a college level and pass a literacy exam concerning State and Federal Government, the Constitution, and the Branches of Government. They also should have some higher standards for science, math, and basic English and Spanish proficiency. Finally, stop giving out 2-year college scholarships and driver’s licenses to people who cannot qualify under the outline above. Require 40 hours inner-city service or work with other marginalized populations, and 40 hours community service in recycling and building and maintaining greenways and bike paths from all high schoolers before graduation. That is my long game.
Hey, Teresa, thanks for your observations and comments!
As to the age of the folks involved in the Catalan independence movement, my photos may distort the reality. There are indeed masses of young people who have now grown up speaking Catalan (unlike during the Franco era when it was prohibited) and are very independent-minded. Some even radically so. Generally, what I see at the protests is a pretty good cross-section of age groups. What I wish I were seeing more of would be more variety in race and religion. Catalunya has taken in a lot of immigarnts from all over the world, but especially from Africa and the Middle East, and I feel like they are under-represented in this movement. More than likely, it is really not a concern of theirs at this point since most are recent immigrants. I do see a few Muslims here and there, folks from (I think) Algeria or Morocco, etc., but not many.
The rural areas tend to be heavily pro-independence while the city of Barcelona, being quite cosmopolitan, tends to be split on the issue.
As far as the vitriol Red v. Blue in the USA, I see parallels all over the world–Brexit v. Pro-EU, Italian right wing v. traditional socialist democrat types, authoritarian/order/populist leaders v. the liberal democratic tradition, and here in Spain, the right wing (with vestiges from the Franco era) v. the more socialist left and the Basque/Catalan/Gallego independence movements. The propaganda smells the same in all these places. I suspect for many folks it’s like rooting for your football team. In the US, if you and your family have always voted Republican, then just the word “Democrat” makes your blood boil–and vice versa. What the actual policies those parties might support might be almost matters not at all.
I once voted Republican on occasion, but have not since the Bush-Cheney-Second Iraq War debacle and do not see myself doing so ever again. Now, it seems it is the Populist-Authoritarian Party of Trump. How the Republicans can continue to support such an obviously incompetent conman is beyond me as I believe it will set the Party back decades, if not destroy it completely (maybe!?). Still, it appears that some 25-30% of Americans will continue to support him regardless (think Nixon)–THAT is a shameful and scary thing for the future of our country.
Yes, education is key as you outlined, as well as some sort of experience with folks less fortunate than ourselves (you are alluding to, perhaps, the huge problem of increasing inequality in the USA). We have a lot of ignorant people in the USA who have never traveled and only get their information from Faux News, Limbaugh Radio, and YouTube conspiracy videos. Living outside the country for so many years, I have had lots of opportunities to talk with many, many foreigners about US politics and I often get an earful…what is happening now just completely baffles most of them.